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also, i'd like to meet all who are Child-Free
Posted on Sep 21st, 2006
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Ocean
Ocean
would all who are child-free please contact me?
we should be proud of it and become an allied group!
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Child-Free Grown by Ocean
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Ocean's Ocean
My Main Blog!
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http://www.OceanMusic.com
we should be proud of it and become an allied group!
And Join
Child-Free Grown by OceanAlso, Visit
Ocean's Ocean
Ocean's Ocean
My Main Blog!
And
http://www.OceanMusic.com
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I am child-free and proud of it. : )
~ Samme
I've got furkids, but I'm thinking you're referring to human children. Nope, none here, and real damn unlikely :)
I am, while I know some are doing alright as parents with the best of intent I think far too often it is not seen as the serious responsibility that it is, not to mention the kind of world you'd have to raise them in.
Since my son died in 1984, I have lived with a burden of guilt and shame.
I no longer have the will to have children.
Abstinance may be the right thing to do,
but it is hardly a cause for pride.
hi, Tyger Bill,
i'm so sorry to hear about your son…
it's not my intention to open sad memories when i speak of being chld-free.
i'm trying to help starving children already in need and to stop more from being born since there are too many starving already.
i'm not advocating abstinace at all - i'm advocating vasectomies, tube-tying, and at least 2 or 3 kinds of birth control for those who won't get surgery, plus i'm advocating adoption.
i'm also glad to see that you know that there is only one individual - so many speak of replacing a lost one, as if that were possible.
your son was lucky to have had such a devoted father, even for a too-short while.
i'm sure he's with you and always will be.
take care,
Ocean
Adoption is not so sweet if you look at it closely.
How would you feel if you were bought or sold?
Or forced to give up the child you did have
because society said that you were selfish to raise him or her yourself?
How many couples pay good money for healthy white infants with their past erased while so many less desirable kids grow up in fosterage because they are considered difficult.
I'm single, still a virgin. If done RIGHT, adoption can be helpful. That system needs to be fixed. So, there you have it…
on Tyger Bill's posting on adoption above -
consider the alternative to adopting -
if most children of the world are not adopted, they will either starve to death,homeless,or they will languish in prison-like conditions, usually starving as well, in institutions.
do you consider the awful death of starvation as better than the less-than-easy way of adoption?
those stymied in the “everything has to be perfect” mode cause undue suffering to others, promote apathy, and blockade change.
it's really hard to understand the fact that you'd find anything to say other than positives about adoption.
it's the grandest exercise in compassion for other human children in existence.
obviously, to even allow someone who seeks to adopt the option of choosing the color of the child should be outlawed.
if one is called to be a parent, then no details should matter.
and we all, being human, and having this eormous human overpopulation to deal with, have much to fix, but any adoption is better than no adoption, even if an adult merely seeks to fill a void rather than wishing to serve the needs of a hungry child.
Ocean
re fraining from reproducing is one of the kindest choices any one can make in this time.
vanity , consumerism, and a limited idea of what am whom can be 'parented' are some of the things this idea challenges.
basically, with cars, pets, humans- let's not make more until we're taking care of all that's all ready here.
i am encouraged by your choices, ocean, in this space.
I deeply appreciate these thoughts. I entered the realm planning to be childless for all your reasons…hormones laced with karma forced me into reproduction, so I seriously raised very spiritual beings as a result (whew the world so needed these beautiful men) AND adoption systems DO need fixing, some promote childnapping, in our own country this is STILL HAPPENING TO LAKOTA and other indigenous welfare service systems who PROFIT from taking them from families…the whole system is a mess (I worked in the child welfare system long enough to go ceate an off the grid community who successfully raised 20+ “system reject” kids who would have been suffering in our social welfare system). As for childbearing, it was and is the most spiritual experience of my many lives, my children are my elders in universe time. I couldnt have stayed on this planet without them. Waterbirth is the way…To you, Ocean, I say…has your child arrived? Mother to your own soul, peace to your inner child, and I welcome your grace as a mother who cares for all earths children. You are uniquely positioned to be this, thank you.
People who have reproduced often say things like what you had said above, but believe me, if you had decided not to you would have found a way to live a very full and possibly even more productive life being child-free!
It's great choosing never to parent!
It's great fun!
I am sister to all in the univese, and defintely siblings with every animal being on Earth. That's my role!
hamsajohanna,
I applaud you effort.and appreciate the generosity of your comments.
Ocean
Your words are very hard. To imply that i would starve most of the children in the world because adoption is less than perfect grossly misrepresents my concern..
Consider these comments:
From David M. Smolin
“The adoption myth in which virtuous adoptive parents bond with needy and loving orphans makes it difficult to imagine that adoption could harm a child.”
“This question of whether adoption can be a harm bears upon the legal question of whether the abduction, purchase, or sale of a child for purposes of adoption is a form of child trafficking.”
“…even adoption into a loving adoptive family can be a form of exploitation where the child's path into that family involves abduction or sale.”
“The exclusivism of the adoptive parent is won largely through the denigation and denial of the birth family. The law has cooperated in this venture through the legal fiction in which an adoptive child has no relationship to their birth parents.”
Also,
http://www.adoptinginternationally.com/analysis/articles/indianscandallaws.pdf
I'm not sure what stance you're taking, but again, I can find nothing whatsoever except goodness in those who choose to adopt rather than to bear children.
Only those who are either defensive since their choices to be self-centered and to breed insead of deciding to take into their hearts and households a child who is already on this Earth or those who, for some greedy political agenda choose to see adoption as less than good would attempt to logically make a case against adoption. And yes, the truth does hurt people who want to hide from it.
Life on our planet is never an ideal for anyone.
That is a given.
Adoption as an institution is a fine calling and is the most spiritual undertaking of someone who would wish to parent.
There are, naturally, individual cases where humans are less than perfect parents, whether to their biologic offspring or to adopted children.
Let's focus on majority - the large percentage of good-enough parents who are adopting children and doing a great job of parenting - practicing their spirituality and saving one more child from being homeless, loveless, and forlorn.
It's not easy being alone in the world - think of adopting first!